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« on: November 16, 2009, 09:21:57 pm »
I took this shot today just before a street cleansing car went by and basically like it, but something with it just doesn't look right. I'm not sure what, though. It just looks somehow odd and it's not the colors.


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Re: fall
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 09:34:07 pm »
Just an idea - a quick flip and crop.

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Re: fall
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 10:37:10 pm »
The slightly sloping benches create a feeling of discomfort in me. I would try a minimal rotation clockwise.

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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2009, 01:27:15 am »
I agree!  The trees and foreground move the feel a bit from the focus.
The sky creeping in too.  How about this?

http://www.23hq.com/DanFish/photo/5108380/original
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Re: fall
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2009, 09:44:36 am »
First thing that struck me was the large dark tree stopping me from entering the forest.
Liquid rescale and slight clone
<img src="http://www.23hq.com/23666/5108601_60c3ed607d8351f1f627d55fd7de32d7_standard.jpg />
Still needs something more, I think

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Re: fall
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2009, 09:40:33 pm »
> Still needs something more, I think

That's the reason why I posted it here. It seems somehow totally unlike how I remember the scene to be. Something from the mood is missing.

Btw, this is how the image looked before I fiddled around with it, straight out of ufraw:

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Re: fall
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 02:27:16 am »
Wow.. thank you very very much for the original colors.  
I am sure your eyes or brain adjusted for light and color and you can only tell us
what you felt or feel is missing.  It looks too blue now but the ambient light (blue sky), does that.
Interesting ideas we have had. All good ones.
I think you did a very well with the coloring and "Fall" look.
I was inspired by the pic as you made it.  
The black tree removal seems needed,,, now that it was mentioned.  :D  (Nachsicht!)

Perhaps a foggy look with streaming rays of sun that just happen to pierce the light landing down to the bench.
Don't think Wilbur can do that but perhaps a skillful artist.  Could be useful in the future.
OR should I say, "How can I put rays of sun in a picture?"
Do I need to add a white layer with multiple densities of believable angles of artificial rays?
I have seen some great pix of similar on broad cloudy seascapes with sun hitting the sea, and also foggy forests.
Much work I suppose.




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Re: fall
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2009, 09:27:45 am »
To me it's a very nice picture, and captures the mood very well but it doesn't really have a point of interest. You have good leading lines in the path and the bench is "pointing" to the same vanishing point, but there isn't anything at the end of the lines. It could have done with a person walking down the path away from the camera.

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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2009, 11:41:41 am »
Kevin got the point here. This image lacks a subject. The eye is wandering around and around without any hesitation. You can make the bench to the subject by cropping the image appropriately.

The black tree removal helps although I don't think it's really necessary.

The image is also overwhelmed of information. Too much over-saturated colour, too much little detail, too few global contrast.

Attached too veeery quick and dirty edits of what I had in mind. One like I would do, one with the rays Dan suggested.
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Re: fall
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2009, 12:54:49 pm »
Sorry to be facetious but what about putting one of those camels at the point of interest?

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Re: fall
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2009, 04:21:56 pm »
Sorry to be facetious but what about putting one of those camels at the point of interest?

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Re: fall
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2009, 06:01:39 pm »
> To me it's a very nice picture, and captures the mood very well but it doesn't really have a point of interest. You have
> good leading lines in the path and the bench is "pointing" to the same vanishing point, but there isn't anything at the end
> of the lines. It could have done with a person walking down the path away from the camera.

> Kevin got the point here. This image lacks a subject. The eye is wandering around and around without any hesitation.

I tried to put the bench into a point of focus but I need way more practice to do it just via the viewfinder (mine doesn't have guidelines) and hearing the cleansing car coming nearer doesn't help much. The leafs on the bench are supposed to show how little it is used and how much people just walk through here without stopping and looking at the scenery.

> Attached too veeery quick and dirty edits of what I had in mind. One like I would do, one with the rays Dan suggested.

Very cool! How did you do the sunrays? I know there were clouds but it looks a lot nicer this way.

> The image is also overwhelmed of information. Too much over-saturated colour, too much little detail, too few global contrast.

That's mostly intentional. The colors weren't that way - overcast sky, no rain before so they were mostly boring and not like fall is supposed to be. That's the situation for weeks now.

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Re: fall
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2009, 09:32:04 pm »
And here is the short video from Nachbarnebenan about his UFRaw work.

http://meetthegimp.org/torrents/fall.mp4

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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2009, 05:40:22 pm »
> Attached too veeery quick and dirty edits of what I had in mind. One like I would do, one with the rays Dan suggested.

Very cool! How did you do the sunrays? I know there were clouds but it looks a lot nicer this way.

I made a copy of everything visible and set it's layer mode to Screen. I added a black layer mask and started to paint white on it with a very soft brush where the rays should be. I just tried to get them parallel, to sometime hide them behind trees and to not overdo it. And to start them where the tree tops are a little lighter.

> The image is also overwhelmed of information. Too much over-saturated colour, too much little detail, too few global contrast.

That's mostly intentional. The colors weren't that way - overcast sky, no rain before so they were mostly boring and not like fall is supposed to be. That's the situation for weeks now.

I understand. But in my eyes it's overdone a little. Too much saturation hurts the eyes ;)
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Re: fall
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2009, 08:48:05 pm »
 ;) http://www.23hq.com/DanFish/photo/5114100/original
Sorry to be facetious but what about putting one of those camels at the point of interest?
I put camels in the shadows.
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