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mramshaw

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Warning: Google / G+
« on: October 04, 2011, 07:00:47 pm »
Off-topic warning! I have just been locked out of my GMail account.

It is of long standing, but now they have introduced (with no warning)
an age policy (G+ mainly but apparently extended to GMail also). When
I entered a phony birthday I was locked out of my account. Of course,
I can reactivate it for a small charge.

Nice going, Google. I see that 'not being evil' thing didn't last very long.

Of course you want my age - so you can target your ads better. A fine
reward to all the 'early adopters' who helped to beta-test your service.

I can remember when users were given a grace period to clean out their
email accounts. Now all of my contacts and email are being held hostage,
without any warning.

So, if Google wants your age I'd suggest 1/1/1970 (the age of *nix).

Plus be prepared, back up all of your email contacts and email.

No PMs please, I cannot access them.

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Re: Warning: Google / G+
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 09:24:13 am »
When I entered a phony birthday I was locked out of my account.

It can also happen if you enter the correct date, I've seen that several times by now. Apparently you can reactive accounts without charge by telephone calls and saying it was a spelling mistake or so, but I don't know the full procedure it's quite a hassle.

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Re: Warning: Google / G+
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 12:59:39 pm »
Seems that it is time to look for a different e-Mail system....   My personal mail and all the mtg stuff is powered by google.


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Re: Warning: Google / G+
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 07:11:01 pm »
Seems that it is time to look for a different e-Mail system....

My suggestion would be to set up a Kolab instance if you want full control. You can do this remotely on a server or on a machine at home. It doesn't use much resources if not running as a large email provider and is fully scriptable. Backup is trivial: Just put /kolab in a tarball and you're done.

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Re: Warning: Google / G+
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2011, 09:06:24 pm »
Apparently you can reactive accounts without charge by telephone calls and saying it was a spelling mistake or so, but I don't know the full procedure it's quite a hassle.

No, it seems like a really bad phishing attempt, they want my birthday and credit card details.

If they offered a PayPal option I'd probably pay it, as it is I think they can cancel everything.

After pulling a cowboy stunt like this, they're crazy to think I will give them personal data.
Of course, maybe that's what they're doing, finding out how gullible people are when they
deal with so-called authority figures. Might be time to look into shorting Google stock, it
sounds like the smart people are all on vacation, sabbatical, or have moved on.

It's worth looking into the terms of service, as far as I can remember they own all content.

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Re: Warning: Google / G+
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2011, 10:45:41 pm »
Are you sure that you are talking with Google? Can you say for sure that you haven't been hacked?


This sounds more like a scam like my experience up to now with them.



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Re: Warning: Google / G+
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2011, 05:06:19 pm »
Can you say for sure that you haven't been hacked?

I may predate their current terms of service, but once I enter login
details it says that the account has been disabled and will be deleted.

After a couple of weeks of nagging me for a mobile phone number,
and a couple of weeks nagging me about my browser, they demanded
my birthday. As it seems really none of their business (they need it to
target their ads towards me, or 'customize my user experience' as they
put it, although their legal justification is that I have to be of an age to
enter into a binding contract with them), I typed in my usual response
when faced with phishing attempts which is 01/01/2001. Hence my
warning, as that makes me not old enough to qualify for an account.
If they had explained it better (or at all) I might have replied differently.

As it is, I now need to prove my age, which I can most easily do by
providing a small fee and my credit card details (they have also been
trying to get for a while also).

No I have not been hacked, I am very careful with my birthday (first
step towards identity theft) while the importance of not divulging my
credit card details over the internet speaks for itself.

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Re: Warning: Google / G+
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2013, 07:34:40 pm »
Sorry for reviving an old thread, but this seemed relevant:

    http://www.23hq.com/paulobrabo/photo/10299591

The official reason: "... will make for a better user experience.".

Or, in my sometimes cynical view, for business reasons.

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Re: Warning: Google / G+
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2013, 05:11:33 pm »
Well, if you are not the paying customer, you are the product. ;-)

I think it's time to move with the important stuff and am looking into OpenCloud.

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Re: Warning: Google / G+
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2013, 09:44:32 pm »
Well, if you are not the paying customer, you are the product. ;-)

The new slogan for the internet ;^o

I think it's time to move with the important stuff and am looking into OpenCloud.

Interesting. I ignored RSS completely but anyone who depends on RSS feeds
for traffic should probably be prepared for a lot of disruption.